La Capra

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  I could-a...but I didn't

  by HadEnuf in

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  19 years ago

  there i was, on my way to the post office and right ahead of me, jay-walking no less, is our po.

  (well...our former po).

  all alone...in his nice gray suit and little folder under his arm (what happened to book-bags...are they obsolete?

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  La Capra 19 years ago

  Can't you just see it...

  Experiences:

  One afternoon, the presiding overseer of a growing congregation was crossing the street while in field service alone. Unbeknownst to the elder, an apostate was driving on the very same street the elder was crossing. Determined to murder him, the apostate started to accelerate her car by pressing on the gas. But, thanks to the protection of Jehovah, this fine elder, while in Jehovah's sacred service, was spared because Jehovah caused the conscience of the apostate to reconsider her decision.

  Brothers and Sisters-aren't we grateful for Jehovah's fine protection? (applause, applause)

  Brothers and Sisters-aren't we secure in knowing that no matter what, if we are doing Jehovah's will, he will take care of us? (applause, applause)

  Brothers and Sisters-isn't it good that we stay off the internet, so as not to fall into the evil hands of Satan and his earthly army of apostates? (applause, applause)

  Blech.

  Shoshana

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  Anyone else raised in a "divided" household?

  by dinah in

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  19 years ago

  hey folks!.

  i've noticed there are many here who were raised "in the truth".

  are there any who were raised in a divided household--where one parent is not a jw?.

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  La Capra 19 years ago

  Dinah,

  That's me exactly. My mom was baptized when I was a few months old....

  My dad's position gave me a tad more freedom, under my mom's tight reign....

  My dad was SO MUCH NICER that the men at the hall...

  If it weren't for that, I wouldn't be college educated,well settled in a teaching career for 15 years, and having a relatively normal life (for someone who was raised like we were).

  It made it that much easier to leave when I got old enough.

  And just the other day, when I received my doctorate, there he was, telling me how very, very proud he was of me, with tears in his eyes. My mom was proud too, but her praise was, well, underwhelming, to say the least.

  Shoshana

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  Well, they finally came to my door

  by Wolfgirl in

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  19 years ago

  we've lived here for nearly 2 years now, and this is the first i've seen them, and i'm home most of the time.

  they caught me as i was taking the rubbish out; i didn't even realise they were in my front garden.

  anyway, it was the first warm saturday we've had since last year, and here comes a mother with her young son.

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  La Capra 19 years ago

  You will never see her again, but don't be surprised if a pair of elders will be showing up soon, completely armed with all your "vital statistics," just as soon as this woman asks a question or to, trying to refute your claims.

  Your address will also be listed on the territory call as "do not call." That's so's no unsuspecting "publisher" gets "gets apostized to."

  But they will really leave you alone after this.

  Shoshana

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  Did you use to shun family members or friends?

  by M.J. in

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  19 years ago

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  have you since re-established contact with them?

  i wonder if the act of shunning someone you love actually strengthens your resolve that you're following the "right" course.

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  La Capra 19 years ago

  Only the people I wanted nothing to do with. Their status as a JW had (and still has) nothing to do with whether I associate with someone. When I was a kid, some DFed people didn't want to get in more trouble and wouldn't talk to me, but not all of them.My haridresser was DFed but I refused to go to anyone else, because she was a hair genius--the best in town. I didn't keep that a secret.

  Shoshana

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  interesting experience....

  by hallowedbethyname in

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  19 years ago

  hello all.. just wanted to pass along an experience that i had about a month or so ago.

  i was invited to a jw wedding of a friend of mine.. also invited was a 'marked' brother who is a very close friend of the bride.

  he was recently marked after the invitations were sent out, so he came along with his 'worldly girlfriend'.. anyways, long story short, about 10 upstanding jw's decided to make a stink just before the bride and groom were to enter the reception hall to do their first dance.

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  La Capra 19 years ago

  I thought "marking" was an individual decision, and that you really weren't supposed to announce to others if you were marking someone. (Even though everyone knew, because of the "special needs talk, and the subsequent gossip.) I s'pose you could tell the person you were marking, but, then you would be braking your own private shun-fest, now wouldn't you....

  If he was on public, or even private reproof, he would have been accepting of his punishment and would not have attended the reception, thus manifesting his contrition.

  Or are things really this snotty these days?

  Shoshana

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  What do you love spending your money on?

  by JH in

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  19 years ago

  i always did love tv's and cars.

  i really don't know hom many tv's i bought in my life.......15 or 20?

  and cars also......i think i'm up to my 15th .

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  La Capra 19 years ago

  Real Estate and Education

  Shoshana (J.D. )

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  Speaking to an Elder tomarrow, I'm almost free!!!!!!!

  by drew sagan in

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  19 years ago

  major developments in my world, just wanted to let you all know about it.

  i'm meeting with the elder tomarrow afternoon.

  i'm going to stick heavy to the watchtowers interpretation of matthew 24 and how it is unbalanced, sensationalized and out of touch with any historical evidence or respect for the bible.

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  La Capra 19 years ago

  Drew,

  All it took for me was one flaw in the WTBTS version of things for the whole house of cards to fall. The reason? Because it claims it is the only truth. By inculcating me with their black and white thinking from the day I was born, it was black and white thinking, on my part, that allowed one chink to condemn them completely. Perhaps this was what kicked in your wife?

  My exit was in the 80s, though. I understand there is a lot of talk of "imperfect humans" these days, and waiting on Jehovah... So maybe they filled that hole with some putty since I've been gone.

  Best of life to you and your wife,

  Shoshana

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  Did you know of any JW's brothers that were "wife beaters"? Were they DF'd?

  by booker-t in

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  19 years ago

  years ago when i was attending my old kh there was an elder that was very stern.

  bro glen(not his real name) used to be very firm in telling students about their talks not being good, or where they needed to improve.

  i know i was "terrified" of bro glen.

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  La Capra 19 years ago

  Pioneer Gal I knew had problems with her husband, and he spanked her. She got disfellowshipped, I think for not being a submissive wife. This was in the late 1980s.

  She divorced him (after the disfellowshipping), went to college and married a really cool guy. I hope they're still married....

  Shoshana

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  Book Study Parties...New Trend ???

  by Poztate in

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  19 years ago

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  truthseeker just posted about the wt congregations discouraging large social gathering or parties.. in the last little while my wife has gone to a few "book study parties" and has commented that other book studies were doing the same.. it seemed a little strange to me that this was happening as most of her congregation seems cold and distant at the best of times.. i wonder if it is a new "program" started by the wt to hype up the old "brotherly love" thing.has anybody heard or seen this to be happening lately if you are still close enough to know?

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  La Capra 19 years ago

  These are starting to sound like a Chavurah. (see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavurah ) Many of my Jewish friends have a formal agreement with a group of families in which they gather for holidays and important family events, such as birthdays, graduations, etc. Sort of an extended family role, with a Jewish umph...When one is without an extended family nearby (for whatever reason), Chavarot provide a context to participate in the cultural aspects of Judaism.

  1) I'd bet these "book study parties" are not sanctioned "from above"

  2) I'd also bet that if they get too widespread someone is gonna put the kabosh on them.

  3) And, using their circular logic, this makes them a good thing, which means the society won't like it, which means they will have to stop, which means they were a good thing to start with, anyway...

  Back in the 70s, a new elder and his family with a ton of kids moved to our congregation. They hosted our bookstudy and every week provided goodies for the entire group after the meeting. It was kinda nice (and where I discovered the "Wheat Thin"). They also had one congregation party, where they went all out with plans for fun things to do for all the age groups.

  That was the only party, and for some reason the book study was disbanded. I don't know that I ever knew why, or even wondered why. That was a nice family, and I suspect he was a "good elder." They eventually moved on.

  Shoshana

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  How am I doing?

  by tsunami_rid3r in

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  19 years ago

  i'm doing great just to let you know.

  first, i haven't attended a meeting for 5 mmonths now!

  i have an amazing network of friends here, and i'm going to be rooming with 2 hot girls next semester.

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  La Capra 19 years ago

  I for one would like to congratulate you for everything. And also, a congratulations on your use of capital letters. Well done, Lad. Shoshana

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